Upon completion of this course you will be able to route straight pipes or tubes, place parts, route flexible tubes, adjust the design of piping or tubing network. CATIA – Tubing Design 2 (TUB) creates and manages physical designs of tubing lines/systems using industry standard conventions, terminology, practices and. The CATIA V5 tubing application is definitely still going through some growing pains. I have had some exposure to piping design and seems to.
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So here is what I know, at V5 R14 level: We are forced to use the so-called “Work Package” methodology. Forget the technological packages, even DS do not recommend to use them. Does anybody has to face this issue? Someone from Boeing, Cessna, Airbus, Thanks in advance to continue this thread. March 2, Tubing design in certain systems is a powerful tool when integrated in a manufacturing process; design can predict or evaluate manufacturing constraints which were only exposed during manufacturing trial runs.
Is a bit complex to set up properly, but the company easily recovers the initial investment. I am amazed to know that you want to tackle this on your own; we have a team working on it since and is not yet finished. But, we went beyond what DSA delivers as raw code; ours is customised to suit our processes. Anyway good luck on your quest.
Well, I’m a consultant, and my client decided that one ressource was sufficient. I will show them your message, I hope they will understand that it requires much more effort than they think. Configuration and installation concerns are also very problematic. March 3, It was so different from our current process that we stopped looking.
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It was hoped that we could re-build our V4 application faster, but that didn’t work out either, so our Tubes are still in V4. Additionally, the setup task looked immense, especially when it didn’t comply with any of our current standards for part numbering and naming. As for Kinematics, we save those off to the file system with the parts still controlled by VPM.
This seems to work OK. We don’t release the Kinematic Models anyway, so it’s not too much bother. We may eventually allow the Black Box or Exposed Mode for our Kinematics, but we will have to have some User Exits in place to ensure that that is the only thing saved that way.
March 15, It is really incredible to see how the Tubing documentation is incomplete and fuzzy: Sometimes XML files are to be edited, sometimes txt files, sometimes catalogs, it’s a mess Does anybody have some feedback about tubing deployment?
What is your opinion about this application?
March 17, They have done a great deal of customizing of the tubing application from simple things like creating standard parts to more complex things such as defining unique object types, design rules, standards and specifications.
This all seems to be working fairly well for them at least in the design phase. I don’t know how much success they have had integrating their design data with their manufacturing processes. I have had some exposure to piping design and seems dssign me that the CATIA V5 tubing application was probably developed by someone with more experience in piping design than tubing design. Tuubing of its features and limitations seem to make more sense if you look at them from a piping standpoint.
March 25, Now comes the hard part of figuring out how to implement it with a customer. Have you come across any process guides or Best Practices regarding V5 Tubing?
What other problems have you come across? March 28, But still the customer wants to go on with production soon. I would like to get some advice on: But for Tubing, it is not workable.
Does anyone have the experience? I didn’t agree entirely with their process but I tybing the Boeing program is following it. Dassault probably has more such documents. You will need to contact Dassault directly to obtain any of this documentation.
Tubinf has agreements in place with Dassault that enable us to receive documentation and software before it is available to the general public so I am not able to provide any of their documents to non-Boeing people.
March 29, We implemented or attempted to the V5 tubing environment with SmarTeam we are using V5R12 some time ago but have since given up. We are now making our tubing lines almost all flexible hoses using the surfacing package which is working alright, but you lose the advantages that the tubing environment is supposed to provide. I spent a lot of time on the implementation and also found it a big pain to set up.
If there is one little problem somewhere in one of the text file or tables it does not work – and it is deisgn to troubleshoot. I hope that future releases of Catia have improvements in this area On the other hand, we are also using the V5 Electrical package, and although it has some “glitches” ddsign works MUCH better and is far easier to set up than Tubing.
It seems like the Electrical and Tubing packages were developed in two different parts of the world and I believe they were. Electrical, which is done in France. I agree with you concerning the set up effort, it is huge for nothing! For me, it requires a set up interface, with validation tools.
March 30, It is not possible to do a proper set up job alone, unless you want to restrict yourselves to adapt what DS delivers in the default Tubing Design which is limited.
The set up team needs to have experts in programming, integration, ATA subject, manufacturing, among others. Their initial efforts have the common objective to simplify designers lives in the near future. This desin a long term investment; it is very optimistic to try to achieve something cafia in a short period of time, that generally does not work very well in engineering.
I know that there program constraints and so on, but throw a few more men to the job. Tubing design came a long way and is now a fairly mature workbench which delivers significant advantages to the business, that is our humble opinion. That is a pretty significant problem for us. I won’t be alone to deploy it, some “business” resources will participate.
But let’s be realistic, the real availability of these people is limited. AXXX, I’m going to invite you, to speak to my clients: A bit discouraging, somewhere For catja, Exploded mode is available, but with limitations.
Dedign didn’t hear anything concerning a future exploded mode support for tubing, piping, About exploded mode, my clients a Canadian aircraft manufacturer want to go to exploded mode deeign next roll-out, and they will, but during testing, they throw away the “tech pack” solution even DS told them to avoid using tech packsand eesign back to black box for applicative data saving kinematics, DMU review, etc.
Maybe all these features will work correctly in the next real V5 release! Bye and thanks for your feedback, and let’s continue this discussion. April 7, Do I need a XML editor, or by doing the changes by hand in wordpad ok? I am just getting into V5 Tubing and am starting to get into the logistics of it. I have been able to create custom tubing test environments without much trouble using WordPad.
Tubing Schematic to Design – TUE
Some knowledge of xml is probably a good thing though. I know next to nothing about xml and have run into problems when I used some non-alphanumeric charachters in my resource file names. Xesign have set up everything, but it seems I am missing something. April 8, Also don’t forget to take to a count.
Do you have the acces right for the folders set up correctly? How much time I have deslgn because of these These were just my first ractions for the problem. You don’t need to set up them if you don’t need them.
You can control line attributes display in the command panel, and I use this resource. See the documentation, and do exactly what it says, it will work. Concerning Project file edition: Do not hesitate to erase entries corresponding to workbenches you won’t use such as Waveguide, for designnit will be much more readable. And now, it’s tuubing time to ask questions: I’ve got problems with flexible hose design.
If anyone has succeeded in this domain, please let me know how.